Kind regards, The Kore (93 I'd recommend for you) is light but stiff. I'm not generally carving groomed at really high speeds but need something that can handle all conditions for all mtn and then a suggestion for those deep days. Sometimes you just need to speak to a expert, so if you're still having trouble picking a size, please give us a call at (877) 812-6710. At 100 mm underfoot, this is the widest Maverick, containing a poplar wood core and two sheets of titanal. Built with a light wood core and Stocklis Titec Pro metal topsheet, these things are true Stocklis--worthy of the praise and price for dedicated all-mountain skiers. Like to rip through the trees, love the steep and deep and am enjoying the bumps more and more all the time. It retains good torsional stiffness and stability when you've got the ski up on edge, while resulting in a lighter weight overall. I'd go 184. After seeing your youtube video I have narrowed it down to the following skis: Salomon QST 99, Atomic Bent Chetler 100, Nordica Enforcer 100 or Fischer Ranger 102 FR. I'm 6'3" 235lb I am all mountain skiing mostly east coast , but 2 trips a year out west. I then demoed the 180 Rustler 10s, but they didn't do it for me -- they felt about the same in the trees as the Kores, but I had a lot of trouble getting a nice carving rhythm with them and they just didn't feel as stable. -Andrew, Hi Andrew! I liked them. Arguably one of the most soft-snow oriented skis of this article. That said, the K2 Pinnacle 95 and the Rustler 9 are simply narrower versions of the 105 and the 10, so that's worth a look as well. I love that ski in moguls, and I think it would provide a refreshing alternative to your Bonafides. I've been devouring your videos and ski tests since I discovered them while shopping for new skis; you provide a fantastic resource for those of us who don't have the opportunity to demo everything! I'm about the same size as you, maybe a bit heavier, and I found those two models and sizes to be just about right. We cannot guarantee mounting if your BSL is provided after the original order is placed. Jokes aside, you'll be blown away by the performance of skis since the last time you were on two planks. SE, Hi SE! SE. Beginner: Chances are youll know if this is you. Your email address will not be published. And in terms of sizing, your range sounds good, probably look to the high-170's if you can. Don't do any park, but want something that can handle powder and trees but still be really fun ripping down groomers. or Best Offer. So I'm always teaching. I am 52 years old and i am 5-10 and 185. For classic or touring poles, the correct size pole should reach your armpit. The enforcer does what I ask of it in the woods, though the length can get tough in east coast trees at times, but It feels like Im trying to turn a ship when in icy bumps and almost always leads to some backseating or picking up too much speed. I have a good level on groomers but I often get bored and want to go more into trees, powder, and learn new tricks in the park. SE, Hi Nick! I'm down to these three: For help with Nordic Ski sizing, please call us at: (877) 812-6710. With a slightly longer than average turn radius of 20 meters in the 178 cm length, these skis make for a great choice in the bumps and trees, while the metal underfoot and through the tail allow for proper carved turns on firm snow. Liberty is growing up as a brand, and the Origin 96 is a perfect example of how their skis continue to evolve. A new addition to the Bent family, the 110 is the long awaited ski that bridges the gap between the 120 and 100. SE, Hi SE. I am looking to buy a new pair of skis, more playful and freestyle-oriented than my current Rossignol EST. The Vantage 97 Ti is a perfect example of that concept. The Enforcer is a stiff, directional, freeride ski. Awesome! The Atomic Backland Bent Chetler was one of the most sought-after skis in this lineup. Thanks, Charibancho! All over when it comes to terrain - bowls, trees, bumps from time to time, and on groomers just depends on the day between tighter turns and super g turns. SE. Any suggestions? Because of this, we often refer to it as a skiers ski as it does require input and steering to get it to turn. I might say the Enforcer 94 is a better choice for eastern ice, and gives you a bit more quickness and less material overall. Looking for something between 97-101 underfoot with a partial or full twin tip. For a relatively heavy ski, its amazing how quick and agile it is, in addition to being an accomplished floater. Have fun! Would the Rustler 10 be better? Finding the proper length ski pole is important as ski poles too long will actually shift your center of balance to behind you, and a pole that's too short will put it in front of you. So you can measure yourself, or you can just check out our handy-dandy chart below. Currently on 181cm Blizzard Bonifides 2015 edition. The Daemon is probably what you're looking for in that lineup. None of your choices are "wrong," but that QST just does everything well. Awesome - thanks for the feedback. It's really quite versatile for a wide range of terrain, and also performs a little better at slower speeds than the M5, so might work better when going slow with the family. Fischer also uses a very thin tip construction by integrating carbon into the ski's construction. I tried out the blizzard bonafides last year and loved them in comparison to my chronics. HI Brody! In Stock Now: New 2023 Atomic. I currently ride Salomon XDR 88 and im looking for something I can float better with and get a little more play/pop while still having good grip and maneuverability. This winter, I've spent ~20 days at Taos, and am now skiing 75% ungroomed terrain, mostly blacks and doubles, with about 50% of my time on moguls or ungroomed bump runs and 30% in the trees. Have fun! Liberty has updated the ski for 2019 with a new rocker profile, which actually reduces the total rocker in the ski. I am an advanced skier @ 6' and 175lb and live in the Midwest, so the typical conditions that I see are hardpack to icy, with occasional soft snow. Quick answer: Stay in the mid-90 mm range, stay in the mid-180 cm length, and dedicated mogul skis are basically only designed for competitive mogul skiers who ski really direct lines. Anyhow, I demo'd a pair of M5's on a big snow day recently, way too much ski, once things were chopped up, I was getting thrown all over the place and really tiring. The HRZN Tech in the t. I have a connection that can get me any Armada ski at a discount, but wondering whether something like the Rustler 10s would be a better ski for me than the Tracer 98s? This one should get more credit. I just skied the 2020 Rustler 10 two weeks ago and it felt a bit more damp, but not a ton--certainly not a whole new ski or anything like that. Finding your Boot Sole Length (BSL) is easy. I'm riding the 2013 Line Prophet 90's today. They prefer to be used at 30+ mph, and at that point, they really start to come to life. Furthermore, would the only downside of the enforcers - for my type of use - be the weight or do they also perform less well off piste? So I'm kind of a one off, not know what to do person. SE. If you like the general shape of the Enforcer, I'd put a strong vote for the Bent Chetler. The Attack 13 is great too, low stand height, wide platform, and the twin cam heel piece makes them a little easier to click in, but you won't have any problems with that. This year I purchased new boots and feel much more connected, but this has in turn made me feel as if I'm skiing at the limit of the K2 and also it's likely a bit short for my height/weight. Enforcer 104 the heaviest of the group but decent tail rocker and nice flex that's money for bumps and trees. Skiers who spend most of their time on groomed terrain but like a wider-bodied ski for both stability and versatility. The Ranger 102 is a little more soft snow focused, while the Enforcer 100 performs a little better on firm snow. It doesn't have huge amounts of rocker or early taper, so its shape isn't totally focused for soft snow, but it still performs really well even in deep conditions. I have been eyeing the Blizzard Rustlers (both the 10s and the 9s) as well as the Kores, but am wondering if I should go for a more flexible ski? Unlike the previous version, we're back to a Mantra with camber. Its a great tree ski for here in Vermont, and its a better floater than its width may indicate. The Pinnacle has a longer tip rocker profile, so is a bit better of a floater than the Rustler in powder. The DPS Pagoda Piste 100 C2 has the build, shape, and profile to make it one of the most accomplished turners of this list. It crosses over between different terrain and snow conditions very well, and is a more forgiving ski than those with lots of metal and less rocker, but don't forget about that metal. Skiers that value edge grip, stability, and a stiff, powerful ski will fall in love with the MX 99. I demo'd them again this year with the new M5. Fischer uses a number of different methods to shed weight from the Ranger 98 Ti. Built with a blend of poplar and beech wood stringers, these skis have power to start with. SoooooAtomic Chetler 100 and Blizzard Rustler 10 have come on my radar and I can get good deals on both right now. SE, Hi SkiEssentials The QST is also more rockered than the M-Pro, especially in the tail, so it is a bit more playful, although not quite as powerful. Besides a ski that will do well for lift service and also back country, would love a ski that would do a bit better in powder than the current 80ish underfoot I currently have and also allow me to play in the park on small (the smallest) features and ski backwards. Looking for your thoughts on those as well. Im based in the Midwest but will travel 1-2 times per year, mostly out west but also some New England. Mark, Hi Mark! I like to charge hard and am starting to play around off piste in Vail and on chowder days with skis. Likely about 180 would work. My thinking on the 177 Mantra would be that it would give me more manoeuvrability for the bumps and tight terrain I like to ski. Have fun! You would be totally fine with the 186 Enforcer 100. Really honest and good ideas. The primary purpose for these skis will be to perform in powder. The Enforcer 100 has so much metal in it to that the 186 will be plenty damp and stable for your build. Beginner: Chances are youll know if this is you. I am middle of the pack in the aggressive category. SE, Hi Todd! (They don't seem to make it strictly in the mid-180s.) In it, we give reviews of our favorite ski gear, provide information about the latest ski technology, discuss the latest news in the ski industry, and so much more. I'm looking for something that can handle both hard and soft snow well, but not looking for something on either end of the spectrum. Enjoy fast ripping on groomers and something a little playful and manageable in trees and bumps. Hi Kovi! Great, you guys are awesome. Was thinking the turn radius on 177 Mantras would be similar to the 185 Enforcer. The all-new Atomic Maverick 100 Ti is a strong and powerful ski that takes over where the Vantage series of skis left off. Does the metal in the kastle or blizzard's make those a more appropriate choice? So, while I like those two skis a lot, you already know you like the QST feel, and I'm not convinced you'd like either of those skis more. Theres a bit of tail rocker, but nothing crazy, while the tip rocker is slightly more dramatic, leading to a greater splay and rise. For a second pair, sticking with the Salomon, check out the XDR 84 for a very well-rounded front side ski. I need to detune the tips and tail a bit on the BC. I've been skiing on the Rossi s3 since 2013 so it's time for an upgrade. I typically, however, recommend it for lighter weight skier more than skiers your size. not sure on what length to go with either. so I spend 30% on piste(that where my friends are) and 70% off piste. More than just dads who ski. Im currently using 186 Blizzard Regulators. For more stability at speed, that does come at the price of weight, the QST is a great ski for sure. Murray, Hi Murray! The Kastle MX 99 is stiff, powerful, and holds an edge better than just about anything in the 100 mm category. The Enforcer 100 starts to feel like a ski with more of an even mix of performance characteristics for different terrain than some of the skis we talked about above, but the important thing to remember with this ski is it still uses two sheets of metal. I am a stocky 5'10" at 215 lbs. Built with Blizzards True Blend wood core, these Bonafides blend poplar and beech stringers to maximize performance while keeping the ski at least somewhat manageable. Characteristics of an advanced skier would be: the ability to ski most, if not all trails, an ability to ski fast, regular ability to ski off trail, and more traditionally, the ability to link full carving turns at full speed. Also, would you consider the Soulrider 97? I just demoed the Mantra M5 184cm at Park City. Hey SE! SE. Hi Peter! I ski west coast only and get in about 12-14 days a year. Check the charts below to see which size you need. But perhaps Ive got enough weight and height to get enough reaction out of the 184 Mantras if I need shorter turns? Take a look at the chart below, and if you have any trouble figuring out your size range, scroll past the cart to where we provide more information regarding these categories. I'm considering Mantra M5s to complement my DPS A112 Wailer 184 for ski days with firmer conditions, lack of off pist snow and for generally working on my carving, turning, downhill skiing on piste. Also, I'm trying to teach my 5 and 3 yo kids to ski so I'm in need of some maneuverability. With art and build design by ski legend Chris Benchetler and the Atomic Freeski team, this all-mountain ski is a slimmed-down version of the award-winning signature model, the Bent Chetler 120. Looking for something that floats well, turns easily, stability, good in woods. I'm a fairly big guy, 5'11" 230+ all dressed, advanced but not expert. How you describe what you're looking for is basically how I describe the QST 99. Im looking for something a little better for off piste, powder and tight tree runs. If you're just on the groomers, that's not a big deal, but it sounds like you're having fun in the woods, and that's where maneuverability really matters. The longer turn shape of the Stance 102 is mostly to blame, as this straighter-cut ski loves to be used directly in the fall line. The Tracer 98 is light enough to use as a touring ski, yet the Innegra Mesh adds in the torsional stiffness you need to hold an edge on firm snow. I ski fast and hard on groomers, I get in the woods any time there is snow available, also hit moguls frequently. If I were to choose one for everything, I'd take the more versatile QST 98, but since I have other skis, I love that BC 100 in the trees! I'd say the 181 is the right size in that ski for you. The Holyshred is somewhat lost at sea, adrift among a horde of great 98-100 mm all-mountain freestyle skis. What do you think? The Ripstick 96 is another interesting option, with a strong on-piste as well as versatile personality. Who it's For: Like the Ranger 102 FR, it's best on the feet of a relatively playful skier, or at least a skier that values soft snow performance. Have fun! This gives the 102 more stability and power in a carved turn as well as a bit better flotation in fresh snow. A slimmed-down version of the signature Bent Chetler 120 skis, the Atomic Bent 100 freeride skis are made to do everything, whether it's fresh snow, deep untracked or hard variable conditions. I think that on the 100 mm list, it sounds like you should stick to the narrower side, given your proclivity for shout turns and tree and mogul skiing. SE, Hi Kyle! If you know youre not an Intermediate skier still, but arent quite confident enough to call yourself an expert, then chances are this is you. Certainly quicker than the Enforcer, the Ripstick makes a strong turn as well. Versus the Ranger 99, it's certainly got more of a carving/on-trail persona, but isn't quite the floater or crud-buster that the Fischer certainly is. I'm frustrated by the lack of edge hold from the Rossis, but I love the playfulness in the ski and how it's performed in bumps, powder, and trees. As a new model for 2022, the Kastle ZX 100 follows in the wider footsteps of last years ZX 108. 15 different all-mountain skis in the 90 mm waist width range. Have fun! Would the extra flotation of the rustler 10 or QST 99 not be worth the loss of edge hold/carving ability since Im primarily skiing frontside terrain? I think you're on the right track here and I do think the Tracer 98 could potentially work for you. The 192 bumps it up to 22 m, so these things are equally as comfortable going straight as they are in a more turny format. A ski for the people! Myself? If you liked the Bonafide but want something a touch more forgiving, I'd lean to the Rustler 10. Will, Hi Will! I skied the mantra last week in 177cm and liked it. Because it's lighter, it's going to be easier to maneuver compared to some of the heavier skis in this article. If the number you see has a decimal, then youre probably looking at your Mondo Point size which isnt accurate enough to use when mounting bindings. I do love pure powder but I'm not as experienced in that yet, I think someday when I retire I'll buy a powder-dedicated ski for those times. I have the Elan Insomnia that I ski on in the East but I'm looking for a second pair for out West. Dog Days of Winter Sale Item. I'm 40, 6'2'' and 180lbs, spent all my life on groomers. Most of my skiing is on groomers 50%, glades 25% & icy chop 25%(Ontario crap weather). Definitely the best in powder out of the skis you're considering, and super fun in moguls and trees too. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Atomic's HRZN Tech is a nod to its soft snow performance. For modern skis with kids, those lengths are certainly prohibitive. Does that make sense? I currently ride a set of Volkl Deacon 76, and I love the speed and turning ability of themon groomed runs and ice. SE (Jeff), Hi SE, They seem to lack some oomph on the groomers, where if I'm being honest I'll spend more time. The shape of the tail in particular is quite a bit different. I'm 5'9" 150lbs, most of my skiing is in the East, Tremblant, Stowe, Sugar Bush, Holiday Valley and the mini hills near Toronto when the kids are in ski school. In addition, the skis have that rocker profile to help with the drifty aspect of the ski, and it ends up resulting in a shorter turn shape and a quicker and more agile quality. What do you think would be a good fit? In the 180, were looking at an 18-meter turn radius, so these skis do have the proclivity of being on edge. Thanks! I was looking for an all mountain ski and I liked what you had to say about Salomon QST 99's. Youre likely still pretty cautious in regards to your speed, but are able to stop on demand and have a bit more confidence that youll make it to the bottom in one piece. Armada Tracer 98 I'm 6' and 200 and ski probably 60/40 on-piste vs. off-piste. Chairlift Chat is the official blog of Skiessentials.com. Fritschi freeride - Der TOP-Favorit unserer Produkttester. Skill: Intermediate (I ski groomed advanced and some tree runs) Best Regards, HI Jesper! I want to find a pair of skis thats comfortable for an intermediate but that will continue to grow with me as I advance to more technical terrain. Rather than snowplow your way down blue squares, youre able to use the shape of your skis to make parabolic or carving turns. The tip rocker profile is on the longer side, but theres not a whole lot of natural tail rocker up until the twin-tipped shape. Thanks a bunch and keep all the great ski reviews coming, you guys do a great job , Hi Pete! Happy skiing! The Kore is stiff and light, and I suspect you'll find the same "bouncing" feeling that you get from the E88. This ski just keeps on chugging along. Definitely keep that Rustler 10 at the top of your list. Your review of them was spot on. Due to it having two sheets of metal, the Enforcer would be a big change from the Sky 7's. I've tried the M5 Mantra in a 180 and liked them but felt the tips were a little too soft and edge lacking a little firmness on hard-pack, otherwise a solid all around ski. I'm looking at a bunch of skis in the 90-100 cm range. The Enforcer is the most all-mountain and versatile ski of the lot. Just be aware that the extra length takes away some of its maneuverability/forgiveness, so only make that decision if you really think you need the extra stability. Still will do both tho. Who it's For: An adventurous skier that wants to play around the entire mountain. After doing some research and reading through your advice to others, it seems like the the Kore 105, Salomon QST 106, K2 Pinnacle 105, and Blizzard Rustler 10 might be what I'm looking for, but I can't decide if I want a heavier or lighter ski. Unfortunately we don't really have access to Line skis right now, with the exception of big industry demos and other events like that. I ski about 50% west (Colorado, Utah, Montana, Wyoming) and 50% east (Vermont and New York mountains). You are comfortable giving your skis directions and following through with them. Lower in the tail than the tip, these skis end up being remarkably playful in fresh snowmore so than youd think with a ski with two sheets of metal. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Black diamond, double black diamond, centuple black diamond, it doesnt even matter. Hello, I am 200lbs and 1.87. Can you help? I'm bouncing around all over the place with little control and getting tired fast. Getting down to the final few candidates but curious on your advice to make a final decision. And height to get enough reaction out of the 184 Mantras if i need detune! Gives the 102 more stability at speed, that does come at the top of your directions. To maneuver compared to some of the 184 Mantras if i need detune. In love with the 186 Enforcer 100 has so much metal in it that. 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