Theres a connection that has been missed! I tend to think that it goes deeper than only Mr. X being involved though. There is a rumor that LE has a partial DNA sample from an unknown male from one of the girls. Mr. X is a very close friend of Mr. M. Mr. M was a 20 year old man who impregnated one of the girls. She feels he is a current POI who is working OT to divert attention away from himself and mislead the public. However, Mindtruth has done a number of episodes on our information and I thank Bruce for that very much. FSG has been someone that I cannot let go of either. Theyre Delphi related videos comparing his appearance to BG. Id prefer stuff thats in the papers. On Monday, police announced that Richard Allen, 50, of Delphi, was arrested and charged with two counts of murder in the deaths of Libby and Abby. No, he came up with the lost my keys gambit to explain why his car sat at the cemetery from 6:30 PM the day of the crime to 12:30 PM the next day when the girls bodies were found, a period of 18 full hours. He may be watching the coverage of this case . This seems to be one of the motives for the homicide. Dad is BG and KAK is waiting under the bridge. Delphi Murders: 5 Years Later, Victim's Sister Clinging to Hope That Killer Will Be Caught Kline allegedly told police it was a "coincidence that I happened to talk to her," according to the . The bodies were dumped near flowing water, creeks or rivers. Two people appear to be conflated here in your article as Mr. X. Furthermore, almost nothing of consequence is being said, and it reminds you of a night with your friends drinking, and no one says one thing of importance for hours. They also acknowledge that SSA, or same sex attraction is a logical process for a lot of men. There are many cases of homicides or attempted homicides in the same category. is that creepy guy still following us?. Say for instance LE arrested Mr. X and charged him with the double homicides of these two girls. FORT WAYNE, Ind. This source close to the retired detective will be referred to as an LE source close to the investigation. Bottom line is our theories now are dramatically more accurate than the 85% error rate we had earlier. Theres no woman among them. He concurred that a high error rate is normal early in the investigation and he also said that by 4-5 years later, you may well get a much clearer picture of the crime. Isnt that logical. For the latest true crime and justice news,subscribe to the Crime Stories with Nancy Grace podcast. Cops have told us more than they told any of those guardians. The Delphi Murders were committed by a coward a small man who can only feel big when he instills fear in others but he is an organized coward. Actually there are four suspects in this case and we are not naming any of them. Keep in mind that we are not claiming that anything listed below as Unverified is true, although some it has a good chance of being true. Both investigators were women. I love you and the information youre releasing! Can you email me with her name, please? We have your fingerprints on the counter.. I will say that Libbys birth mother has also dealt with her loss by turning rageful. Just thought I would draw your attention to it. I find it interesting that you stated he told the girls that he was a railroad policeman so that audio must have been on one of the girls cell phones? CDP CDP+ Delphi DS150 Delphi DS150E with Autocom 2014. Young girls menstrual cycles can be so messed up until possibly a few years later. At least two prior marriages. I found your article very interesting and thought provoking. That makes no sense. You just dont know what a person is capable of. A number of strange objects were found around the Evansdale girls similar to the bizarre images decorating the Delphi crime scene. Were you a member of the private group? If others want to dig around and find out who he is, thats their business. Enough is enough. Why on Earth would the killer have a copy of an audio file from Libbys phone! 11) I see his home. This is what happened. This is getting ridiculous. After 5:30 PM, news of the girls going missing went out over the police scanner. Kirts knew those backwoods just as good & probably better than Logan didI dunno man, the motive is dead on too (his beast of a girlfriend Garth getting locked up & losing custody of her son because of Libertys dad snitching for jail time easingI first thought this was a serial crimeNow, after looking at a lot more of the detail (& coming in to this in December 21, with most of the pertinent activity already have taken place), Id say chances of it being serial are probably less than 1%. Currently, no arrests have been made, and the investigation continues. We know he had binoculars with him and he told the girls that he was a railroad policeman who had spotted them with binoculars. This lines up nicely with Leigh Kerrs testimony where he said that BG used binoculars in this crime. Is that also speculation? The Monon High Bridge trail attracts hunters, fishers, campers and kids hiking or just taking photos of the popular spot. If he left, LE might tow it or search it. Was present when the Evansdale Murders occurred. Thats a full 18 hours. So every time a kid gets killed in a sexual murder, LE goes looking for photos and videos of the murder because obviously everyone who kills a kid takes pics of it and videotapes it. Hindsight is 20-20 and this case might have been the one case out out of a million that might have borne fruit had they continued searching. Yes, they would be looking for it, because if you know computers etc. As CrimeOnline previously reported, Kline, an Indiana man accused of child exploitation and child pornography, says police told him he was the last person to communicate with one of the two girls killed in Delphi, Indiana, in 2017. So that means he killed these girls because theyre chicks too! Doesnt sound like a logical progression of thought to me. Delphi residents and those closely following the case were stunned when, on April 22, 2019, the Indiana State Police announced the case was moving in a "new direction." Law enforcement released a very brief video clip of the main suspect walking along the bridge, and a revamped version of the audio clip released in 2017 that said, "Guys . Im really worried about people bothering or harming this guy and his family. 43 sec is probably the time they have of the man on the girls phone recording. There is evidence that may have worked at a Tyson packing plant in Logansport in 2011-2012. That would mean he would have had to drive back to Delphi by at least 3:45 and possibly later, depending on what town he was in and when he left. Just thought I would steel you for that thought. Another one of the videos had what Im assuming is a LinkedIn profile of some sort spliced into the slide show for a brief moment. Hes in prison where he belongs. Yes, that is what I referred to; i.e. The only way they could know this is if the rumors about BG sending photos or video of the crime to Abbys phone after the crime occurred are true. No, he didnt kill his own granddaughter. (Indiana State Police) Authorities in Delphi, Indiana, have issued a fresh plea for information about a fake social media profile they suspect was used to lure two teenage girls to their deaths. This claims are quite dubious and we dont suggest anyone put any weight into them. If the DA does not think he has enough evidence in a homicide case to win in court, they wont take it to trial. This is why you dont hear LE openly accusing people of committing serious crimes like homicide unless they have enough evidence to take them to trial. We all stumble over our words sometimes. I thought there was more to this blog. In other words, LE are convinced that BG filmed or videotaped his crime. For one, its a gross violation of journalistic ethics, and I was trained to be a journalist I have a BA in Journalism and worked as an editor of a large magazine, among other things. If he didnt have his keys, he could not move his truck. Delphi Bridge murder victims Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, were found to have lost a large amount of blood when discovered dead close to an Indiana hiking trail in February 2017. Thats a GoPro on BGs waist and he filmed his crime. Others close to the victims, who I will not name, have channeled their grief into rage and lashing out at everyone around them. Isnt that REALLY FUCKING STUPID? We obtained this document via a public records request. It could explain why there was such a drastic image change of BG from first sketch to second one. LE has already looked into him quite a bit, and I assume hes cleared. You will see below where we regard certain things as Proven. X. The casing from the .40 caliber gun still remains within the creek. The dots connecting back to Iowa with the Tyson plant etc is great investigative work. She mentions how the search parties on the 13th had a hard time finding the girls because they didnt think the were looking for bodies but alive girls and she says additionally, also they were partially covered. What does that mean? Delphi Investigators Are 'Actively Pursuing' Accused Predator James Chadwell, Libby German's Grandfather Says Reward in Killings of Delphi Teens Libby German and Abby Williams Rises to $325K. But its definitely him! We believe Mr. X stayed with the truck all that time in order to watch it. In addition, we may have more documents. However, there was one little problem. Didnt he at the time live down the street from Logan? It was also asked How did BG get across that knee-high stream in the middle of winter without nearly getting hypothermia? The girls would have also been subject to hypothermia?? Wheres the rest of it? Mr. X also cuts up a lot of deer that he shoots for food. One problem was we went down the rabbit hole chasing the wrong guy for a couple of years. Where his truck was parked was a five minute walk to the crime scene. Wow, this is some incredible news. We do not have a copy of that gag order, but we were told that one had been issued by the courts. No, I Dont Lack Credibility or Legitimacy, Alt Left: Hate the Collective But Love the Individual. This goes on all the time, however. Amazing work! Of course Ron Logan didnt do it. If he had those objects found at the crime scene in his truck, he could have easily carried them down to the crime scene and used them to stage it with the objects. The girls would have also been subject to hypothermia?? I I heard the girls say repeatedly, Its Elementary Watson, and 2 plus 2 equals 4. He posted a photo on Facebook around three weeks to a month after the murders. Breathe so we can comment in between paragraphs pleaser. Latest: Hope32. Girls in the pedohebephilic age range (8-14 years old) were brazenly abducted two at once from trails in busy parks in rural Midwestern towns in the middle of daytime with many people around. I could be completely off base and change my mind tomorrow. Thats the price you pay to live in a free society. Im thinking theres around 10 more people, in addition to the four youve mentioned, that are involved with a retaliation/revenge motive. Again, not saying that he did it. You are apparently a better sleuth than I am. In all four instances, people arrived at their conclusions independently of the other party. How do you know that LE has someone they believe is BG? They said, Hes just a decoy. But we dont know what that means. You came over here after sitting over of that hate Reddit, LibbyandAbby where youve been hating on me. Occupation: Handicrafter making wooden signs. LE doesnt have much in the way of good, solid evidence against Mr. X. But no, that was not the case. I happen to think he probably did it, but what do I know? No, LK is the real deal. I really dont see a motive for RL. Indiana Cold Cases is similar and so is True Crime Jesus. These seem to have been packing plant workers in the Delphi area who get transferred over to the Evansdale area for periods of time to work on sister plants over there. Kegan Kline cannot be involved either. Whatever it was that caused her to react in such a way, I just hope she shared with law enforcement. Little if any good information comes out of these places. We openly admit that much of what we are saying about this crime are unverified rumors. DELPHI, Ind. Consequently, the accuracy of our statements should go up a lot too. Ronald Logan died Jan. 24, 2022. Frequently hunted deer on Rons land. Not because theres any evidence that they were lookouts, but more because everyone in that situation at the time of the murders is being looked at that way. Via LE Source A, Mr. X s roommate in 2011-2012 in Delphi told LE that BG was absolutely Mr. X. . Evidence in the Delphi, Indiana, double murder case was unsealed by a county court on Tuesday, revealing key new details, including that suspect Richard Allen's gun was linked to the crime scene. Then email me and and I will give you the link and password and I will also let you into the new forum where you can set up your own name and password. I hope he doesnt read here but I knew a Facebook group mod who was in contact with him and she felt he was either gay, an effeminate man, or a Beta, as she put it. Cause of death of one girl was a deep cut to the throat. Unverified but Likely. Its very rare for killers to take photos or videos of their crimes. It has been said there were dolls and stuffed animals around the girls. 12) Buried clothing of his stained with the girls blood on his property! I hav followed both cases very closely. LE doesnt like being lied to, especially when they are investigating a double homicide. She was found in an ivory/white dress. Not long afterwards, the pink stripe was removed from the truck, witnesses say. One of our team members talked to a detective in Kentucky a couple of years ago who told us about this expunged conviction. So if he wore Packers boots to do his crime, he would have been able to cross that cold stream where the water is knee-deep. And my ban appeal didnt work either. Would be interesting to know if Garett Kirts was on Ron Logans property that day. They simply dont have enough on him to get a conviction is all. You think Im stupid? In fact just based on what I have going on, researching this case is the absolute last thing I should be doing, but its drawing me in, and I cant help it. We believe he could have been staging that elaborate crime scene during that time. Delphi Murders /// Under the Bridge /// Part 1 /// 509 Part 1 of 3 www.TrueCrimeGarage.com Delphi, Indiana - February 13, 2017 - Middle school students Liberty German and Abigail Williams went for a hike on the Monon High Bridge Trail and were murdered. Highly suspicious and the states that are responsible are more interested in getting into pissing contests as opposed to finding her. CM: Not even going to bother to reveal his name. Also theres only one way for LE to know that BG filmed his crime if the rumors about sending video of the crime to the girls phones afterwards is true. DAs require a very high standard of evidence to bring a homicide charge against someone. This may extend to age 15. 4 A figure was seen walking on the abandoned railroad bridge that Libby German and Abigail Williams had visited Credit: Indiana State Police 4 But they used experts to clean it up with fancy software and groups of experts got together to try to figure out what was being said. He could have gone home, but for some reason he stayed with his truck. A girls hand wrapped around a knife which was plunged into a log that she was resting her head on. Hes connected to a local sex offender in the area (a friend, or family membercousin?). Have you wrote about what the investigators talked to RL about? Here is a previous episode on the case. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Scan this QR code to download the app now. Via LE Source A, we have learned that in both crimes: The following are unverified rumors with at least some probability of being true: Indiana LE did not validate the rumors about some aspects of the crime scene such as: This is probably one of the flat-out weirdest aspects of the case of all. Everyone was crowding around to look at the crime he had committed. Also, if I look at a map showing where the girls were dropped off, seems there is a pretty long trail from that spot onto the railroad bridge. Now, I have denied knowing something that I actually knew, but that was to protect the integrity of an investigation. Point is that he may have never had ceased offending. In particular, user/tobor is excellent. High Robert, Yes, I think Mr. X did this crime. I live in Pennsylvania and have been interested in this case since the time it happened. Furthermore, homicide is the most serious thing you can charge anyone with. The gun failed the tests and was returned to the home. We also have at least one other search warrant for another home. I appreciate your style about not being afraid to put out things others wouldnt dare & or might even get accosted over doing soThose idiots are WEAK& most of them are hypocritesSome of the new YouTubers even, they first bitch about the same thing, then they start a channel, and the next thing you know, their moderators are hacking/choking& putting that ass in the corner for hours before allowing u to crawl back in, all bruised, & compliantNot for me. Tony Kline is 65, 310 pounds! Most of the rest are not bad people, but they are showboats, loudmouths, and boasters with egos the size of small planets. Possibly works with kids. Also how about this? Im the one who did it. She has been featured in Psychic Investigators, Paranormal Witness, and interviewed by Nancy Grace! Join the best Delphi sleuthing group of all! Our reporting partners at WPTA in Fort Wayne spoke with IUPUI Professor and Director of the Forensic and Investigative Sciences Program John Goodpaster. In general, the less said about the other aspects of his life the better, and they have no relationship to this case anyway. But there have, of course, been other suspects of the gruesome crime now dubbed as the "Delphi Snapchat murders". Required fields are marked *. Thank you I came here after being directed to you. I just donated via PayPal. They go up to the knee and are designed to be waterproof. Robert Lindsay isnt just one guy. Anything that shows they crossed the creek that evening. Carter added the probable cause affidavit. Here are hosts Andrew Iden and Barbara MacDonald, with more on what to expect over the course of the. Still in Delphi, or on the border of Delphi. I dont know what these names mean. Clearly very familiar with the area of the crime and perhaps knew it as well as the back of his hand. The police cant prevent private citizens from searching on their own, and its my understanding that many did. Do have any knowledge the workers from Indiana who were transferred over there in 2011-2012, which plant they came from Indiana and which plant they came to work on in Evansdale? Maybe we need to clear him a 243rd time then just to make sure! This just doesnt bode well for him, I mean ESPECIALLY if you consider that he asked to search the Logan property and came up empty-handed. Thanks for all the info much appreciated. I do not feel comfortable using his initials or certainly his name. Id be surprised if he were in on this, but stranger things have happened. So yeah, if you type in Mr Xs real govt registered name into the old YT, you get a handful of cryptic videos, slideshows with creepy music typical for this sort of thing. He went away for a bit and came back a while later with proof from LE that some of the things we have been reporting as rumors here are absolute fact. Dont pay any attention to that.. The only case I am familiar with is the Bittaker-Norris Murders in Southern California. Corn fields? He was one of the original witnesses who saw BG and gave a description. They act like Im sort of deranged psychopathic maniac whos a danger to women and children. The autopsy of the other would know if she was a virgin and even if the killer violated her with whatever she would have bled a little so that could have been detected also. Theyre not that common. He uses all kinds of weird aliases. He cant even drive a car! We suppose if was listening to a police scanner, he could have known that early, but whats the likelihood of Mr. X listening to a police scanner between 5:30-6:30 PM on the day of the crime? Of course, we know now that they were killed but as far as LE was concerned, that very night, those girls were alive and may have been in desperate need of assistance. About eight days after the murders, this man shoots and kills his 16 year old live-in girlfriend while allegedly cleaning his firearm. I do not feel comfortable answering that question right now. They even try to cure effeminate gay men and let them back in the churches as long as they say theyre cured of homosexuality. And Mr. X or BG is the one who used that catfish to bring Libby in. . Robert Lindsay, Independent Journalist: l Talk about Things You're Not Supposed to Talk About. That is the statement from the woman on the search team. Join Nancy Grace for her new online video series designed to help you protect what you love most your children. He met few if any of those girls he was talking to. Three people were shot and now recovering after a shooting in Philadelphia. Fondled similarly to Libby. One seems to be PNB and the other is RRB. Though she cannot comment on this investigation since its ongoing, she MAY be able to offer clues. Sexual age orientation: Pedohebephilia, nonexclusive, AOA 8-14. I find your blog very interesting. Video of the incident was released by police. Kelsis DNA was the only DNA found on the bodies. Obviously this is the only type of personality that is capable of podcasting an egomaniac on the other hand, their personality pathology limits the usefulness of their shows. For information on these documents, see the special section below where their nature and provenance is explained. But all theories must be judged against their competitors (Occams). The theory is that he was in on these murders for mercenary reasons, such as a malign desire to purchase Ron Logans land. (WPTA/WNDU) - Documents have been released in the Delphi murders case, but questions about the evidence and how Abby Williams and Libby German died remain. Remember that they came out with a pair of boots? It's been five years since the Delphi murders shook an Indiana town, and family says they're still holding out hope that the case will be solved. Try harder. Old style 501 blue jeans from the 1980s Dad jeans. You said parent, so that gives me a clue. He has dealt with his grief with silence and hiding himself away. Most of these podcasts are silly speculation or talk about POIs who are all ruled out. Double jeopardy? He doesnt want to get uncovered revealing official case documents to the media. Thank you! Items known to be carried or worn by BG at the time of crime: Loaded handgun in right jacket pocket, type unknown, possibly a rare .40mm collectors item. According to News Nation, The Murder Sheet podcast obtained transcripts of an interview between a possible suspect, Kegan Kline, and Indiana investigators. Although no arrests have been made in the case, the transcripts detail information that puts the case back in the national spotlight. He saved society a lot of money by eating a bullet, freeing up some fresh air and making the world the tiniest bit of a better place. On July 23, 2019, Etter was wanted for the kidnapping and rape of a 26-year-old woman in Tippecanoe County. People are saying this is a coincidence, but apparently LE does not believe it is coincidental. This is at a time when he and his alibi place him out of town in a nearby city. Leave this poor man alone, for Gods sake. The recently-released interview transcripts happened after Kline was interrogated by an Indiana state trooper and a sheriffs deputy on August 18, 2020. Mr Xs alibi is it true that the person who is now deceased is a police officer who committed suicide? We wrote an article a while back pointing out that we felt Holder was innocent, and that set off a spate of hate mail and threats from him and his son, which we found odd. Those aspects of the crime are the following: We feel that these facts are validated because in 1-3, they were seen by us in the crime scene photos and also by a female search party member at the scene, in 4, they were seen by two separate female search party members who had never talked to each other, and in 5, it was verified by a conversation with the girls guardian herself backed up by a postmortem photo. Always. Ive followed your articles over the past four years and find your insight quite interesting! There are some absolutely fascinating old rumors on there that I have never heard before, mostly having to do with Young BG and his possible presence or involvement at the crime scene. Police questioned Kegan Kline about the incident during an Aug. 19, 2020, interview at the Indiana State . I dont know about you, but when I go to a nearby town, I dont generally take my cellphone and throw it in a bunch of weeds for the five hours that I was gone, coming back to my home hours later to retrieve it from the weeds. (WISH) More than five years have passed since the murders of two young girls in a small Indiana town. The fact that we were given little to no information about what really happened to Abby and Libby other than they were murdered by BG) from LE says a lot more to me than LE lets on. It was dusty and disheveled. Distance of residence from crime scene at the time of the crime: Less than 2 miles to the east along the creek. These are the only claims that people can hold us to because with all the rest, we openly admit that the claims are Unverified, so we should not be held to any of those claims. 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